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that last quote of course was from rick snyder. current governor of michigan, who is apparently now been convinced that nothing is too divisive for his state. what happened to turn governor rick snyder around so fast on this? and what is going to happen to michigan if they pushed this through, as they say they are going to at lightning speed as early as tomorrow morning with no debate? joining us now for some insight is andy potter. he is a state vice president in the michigan corrections labor union. mr. potter himself is a republican, which makes me particularly grateful to have a chance to talk to you tonight. so thank you for being here. >> absolutely. >> you are republican. your republican party is poised to strip union rights in a way that they didn't campaign on and that nobody really saw coming. why do you support union rights and what do you think is going on with your party? >> well, i support union rights because i've seen throughout the years the good that they have done in bringing to light some of the injustices that
that last quote of course was from rick snyder. current governor of michigan, who is apparently now been convinced that nothing is too divisive for his state. what happened to turn governor rick snyder around so fast on this? and what is going to happen to michigan if they pushed this through, as they say they are going to at lightning speed as early as tomorrow morning with no debate? joining us now for some insight is andy potter. he is a state vice president in the michigan corrections labor...
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they have to pass the other ones, and then rick snyder, we expect, to sign it. one thing that's interesting, ohio, something similar happened, and you saw a ballot initiative that actually repealed the right to work legislation. that's not likely to happen here because in the state constitution you can't repeal a spending bill, ask there was an appropriation, a spending measure, attached to this legislation. so it's going to be harder to overturn it. that doesn't mean people won't protest. it dent mean it won't become a national story, as it's already becoming, but getting it repealed or at least even the process of repeeling could be a lot more difficult. >> now, the president today in michigan is still doing the public campaigning, and this is beginning to pay off. you see real negotiations taking place. what do we know happened at the white house between the president and speaker boehner this weekend? >> we don't know all that much because they put out statements that said literally the exact same thing. it was a good conversation, blah, blah, blah, blah, bla
they have to pass the other ones, and then rick snyder, we expect, to sign it. one thing that's interesting, ohio, something similar happened, and you saw a ballot initiative that actually repealed the right to work legislation. that's not likely to happen here because in the state constitution you can't repeal a spending bill, ask there was an appropriation, a spending measure, attached to this legislation. so it's going to be harder to overturn it. that doesn't mean people won't protest. it...
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at the time reporters wanted to know whether rick snyder would support what is known as a right to work law. the idea of right to work is simple. under a right to work law, employees of a union shop don't have to pay union dues. the employees get the benefit of the union, the higher wages and better health care, all of that, but they do not have to pay for it. why pay money if you can have something for free? for unions, the results of this are close to catastrophic which is why republicans and big business love right to work laws. they are a way of destroying unions. the same heritage foundation that will be jim demint's new home says union membership fell by 15% in states that passed right to work. union organizing fell by half, passing a right to work law stops unions and it stops organizing. on the labor left, the economic policy institute reports that wages fall by more than 3% after you institute right to work. and pensions take a hit, too. that's why unions call right to work the right to work for less. with governor snyder saying he wanted no part of a fight over right to work j
at the time reporters wanted to know whether rick snyder would support what is known as a right to work law. the idea of right to work is simple. under a right to work law, employees of a union shop don't have to pay union dues. the employees get the benefit of the union, the higher wages and better health care, all of that, but they do not have to pay for it. why pay money if you can have something for free? for unions, the results of this are close to catastrophic which is why republicans and...
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rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy. michigan governor rick snyder went before congress ten months ago to say he was not particularly interested at this time in making the bedrock union state of michigan a right to work state. >> right to work is an issue that is a very divisive issue. people feel very strongly about it. we have many problems in michigan that are much more pressing that i want to find common ground issues we can work together on before we get into divisive issues. >> jon: (whispering) going to bring people together. (laughter) he was going to focus on common ground things people from michigan want and need. more robocoppers on the streets of new detroit. (laughter) getting the tourism board to work a little harder on its new slogan. (laughter) and finally -- (applause). finally michigan was going to fin their statue i have been petitioning for online. (laughter) they've got a rocky statue in philly, they should have a kid rock statue in detroit. that's some bull (bleep) right there. (laughter) none of th
rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy. michigan governor rick snyder went before congress ten months ago to say he was not particularly interested at this time in making the bedrock union state of michigan a right to work state. >> right to work is an issue that is a very divisive issue. people feel very strongly about it. we have many problems in michigan that are much more pressing that i want to find common ground issues we can work together on before we get into divisive issues....
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even though the governor, rick snyder, didn't talk about it, but mary kay henry wanted to make a final point. >> i just disagree with the idea that it's wait and see. we know that ohio, missouri, kansas are all considering right to work legislation in january, and i agree with the last speaker's point. this is a 30-year assault to dismantle worker organization because it allows the wealthy incorporations to set low wages and put profits above people in this country, and it destroys our democracy because workers have the resources to be able to fight not just for union rights, but for environmental protections, for voting rights. >> for women. >> for protecting planned parenthood, for immigration rights, and that's why there is going to be such a systematic attack. now that they couldn't suppress the vote, they're now going to try to take worker organizations off the playing field for 2014 and 2016. >> that's a different point than i was making. i think it's much less likely this time, legislation like this. >> scott walker said today or yesterday that he will not pursue right to work l
even though the governor, rick snyder, didn't talk about it, but mary kay henry wanted to make a final point. >> i just disagree with the idea that it's wait and see. we know that ohio, missouri, kansas are all considering right to work legislation in january, and i agree with the last speaker's point. this is a 30-year assault to dismantle worker organization because it allows the wealthy incorporations to set low wages and put profits above people in this country, and it destroys our...
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just like the majority voted for rick snyder. i might not agree with his policies as governor, but i don't have a choice to hold back on my taxes. i might not agree with the direction the president is taking, but i got to pay my federal taxes or the irs will come after me. so the idea that you get all the benefits of the union membership and you don't have to pay your dues, and the union has to earn the support is a bunch of nonsense. the majority in those shops have spoken. 51% have wanted a union, and if you don't like it, you can take your business elsewhere. we're only 17% union. i agree with the governor, though. it's both a shot in the gut and a call to action. >> right. >> and i believe, you know what? sometimes it takes both. sometimes it takes a slap in the face, a shot in the gut, a kick in the shins to get people motivated. we are motivated and fired up. >> the big picture here, governor, is they're after the rust belt. >> they are. >> if they can break the backs of the unions and their infrastructure of funding and pa
just like the majority voted for rick snyder. i might not agree with his policies as governor, but i don't have a choice to hold back on my taxes. i might not agree with the direction the president is taking, but i got to pay my federal taxes or the irs will come after me. so the idea that you get all the benefits of the union membership and you don't have to pay your dues, and the union has to earn the support is a bunch of nonsense. the majority in those shops have spoken. 51% have wanted a...
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. >> michigan democrats make a last-ditch appeal to governor rick snyder to stop his sneak attack on workers. congressman gary peters was in the meeting. he joins me, along with cindy estrada of the united auto workers, next. >>> there is a big announcement from the white house on immigration reform. i'll have the details ahead. >>> and your vacation to the moon may not be out of reach. a private company will offer space travel in 2020. >> it could change space travel forever. >> astronomer derrick pitts of the franklin institute will tell us why the concept isn't so out of this world. you won't take my life. you won't take our future. aids affects us all. even babies. our employees and their families are part of the fight. and we're winning. at chevron nigeria, we haven't had a reported case in 12 years. aids is strong. aids is strong. but we are stronger. and aids... ♪ aids is going to lose. aids is going to lose. ♪ aids is going to lose. aids is going to lose. online outfit piccolo headphones buy now broadway show megapixels place to sleep little roadster war and peace deep se
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this is why i am addressing my open letter to him, dear governor rick snyder, i have to tell you that your decision to pass right to work legislation has me feeling a little bit of deja vu. before this sudden change of heart, you previously discouraged your fellow republicans in michigan's legislature from advancing right to work law. it reminds me of your counterpart in the neighboring start on the other side of lake michigan. scott walker didn't make unions a big issue in his campaign. there he was last year leading the charge to strip wisconsin workers of their collective bargaining rights. what a bit of bait and switch isn't all that the two of you have in common, is it? your push to pass right to work in michigan was launched in partnership with the same guys who bankrolled governor walkers campaign to undermine workers rights, the koch brothers and their group americans for prosperity. they paid big-time into governor walker's campaign. as the saying goes, you have to give the devil his due. you are your own man. still time to make a different decision. this is michigan we are t
this is why i am addressing my open letter to him, dear governor rick snyder, i have to tell you that your decision to pass right to work legislation has me feeling a little bit of deja vu. before this sudden change of heart, you previously discouraged your fellow republicans in michigan's legislature from advancing right to work law. it reminds me of your counterpart in the neighboring start on the other side of lake michigan. scott walker didn't make unions a big issue in his campaign. there...
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governor rick snyder joins us next. why he says it was the unions who started this fight. >>> and a little later, harvey weinstein will be here on set to discuss tonight's big benefit concert for hurricane sandy relief. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. we're at walmart with the simmons family. how much is your current phone bill? four sixteen seventy six a month! okay, come with me -- we're gonna save you money. with straight talk at walmart, you get unlimited talk, text and data for only $45 a month per phone. would we get the same coverage? same coverage on america's best networks. you saved $146.76 by switching to straight talk. awesome! now you can afford to share your allowance with me. get the season's hottest smartphones like the samsung galaxy s2 and get straight talk with unlimited data for just $45 a month -- from america's gift headquarters. walmart. ♪ [ male announcer ] can a car be built around a state of mind? ♪ announcing the all-new 2013 malibu from chevrolet. ♪ with a remarkable
governor rick snyder joins us next. why he says it was the unions who started this fight. >>> and a little later, harvey weinstein will be here on set to discuss tonight's big benefit concert for hurricane sandy relief. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. we're at walmart with the simmons family. how much is your current phone bill? four sixteen seventy six a month! okay, come with me -- we're gonna save you money. with straight talk at walmart, you get...
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do you know, by the way, this someone of my candidates for president, rick snyder. he's a magnificent governor and bless the legislator. detroit used to have millionaires than new york. it it was a beautiful city. they almost had the eolympics there. you can see the videos of what detroit was like. first it was dried by the mob with the race riots. then it was destroyed by the unions driving the jobs abroad. and people have the precise numbers on this. the amount of money you paid for a car that is paying for pensions of people who retired five years ago that's correct is a do youing state. one of the most beautiful states in the union and that's what happens. >> let me answer your great point. this is true. right now detroit is on the verge of bankruptcy. one of america's great cities. they have lost half their population. can go on the internet. i urge our viewers to go out there. you can buy homes in detroit for a thousand dollars. last time i was there, it was shocking how one boarded up house of a another. it almost looked like new orleans of a hurricane katrin
do you know, by the way, this someone of my candidates for president, rick snyder. he's a magnificent governor and bless the legislator. detroit used to have millionaires than new york. it it was a beautiful city. they almost had the eolympics there. you can see the videos of what detroit was like. first it was dried by the mob with the race riots. then it was destroyed by the unions driving the jobs abroad. and people have the precise numbers on this. the amount of money you paid for a car...
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governor rick snyder is here. that's next. also senator john mccain calling president obama's refusal to intervene in syria disgraceful and shameful and that was months ago when he said that and now when it is so much worse. sierra is reportedly ready to use gas against their own people. what does senator initiated. neural speeds increasing to 4g lte. brain upgrading to a quad-core processor. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to your phone. it's an upgrade to yourself. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] while you're getting ready for the holidays, we're getting ready for you. tis the season. for food, for family, and now, something extra -- for you. >> first the wisconsin state capitol, now michigan. hundreds protesting against michigan coming a right to work state. today republican governor rick snyder and gop leaders saying they will push to right to work legislation. and tonight both the michigan house and cincinnati passing the measure. we spoke with.gov nor snyder
governor rick snyder is here. that's next. also senator john mccain calling president obama's refusal to intervene in syria disgraceful and shameful and that was months ago when he said that and now when it is so much worse. sierra is reportedly ready to use gas against their own people. what does senator initiated. neural speeds increasing to 4g lte. brain upgrading to a quad-core processor. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to...
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governor rick snyder is here. that's next. also senator john mccain calling president obama's refusal to intervene in syria disgraceful and shameful and that was months ago when he said that and now when it is so much worse. sierra is reportedly ready to use gas against their own people. what does senator mccain say right now? you will hear from him coming up. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to your phone. it's an upgrade to yourself. so we created the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number experience. around a bed with dualair technology that allows you to adjust to the support your body needs - each of your bodies. our sleep professionals will help you find your sleep number setting. exclusively at a sleep number store. sleep number. comfort individualized. this holiday season, give the gift that's magical: the innovative airfit adjustable pillow at special 30% savings. >> first the wisconsin state capitol, now michigan. hundreds protesting against michiga
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. >> republican governor rick snyder promises to sign the bill as soon as it hits his desk which could be within hours. >> jon: actually, between the time that we cut that soundbite and now he already signed it! so (bleep). (laughter) look, you know what, man? so what? so what? so this guy who really looks pleasant enough. (laughter) , maybe it won't be so bad. i mean, the phrase "right to work" is such a positive and uplifting message. what could it possibly do to organizations like unions that also supports workers rights. the law probably strengthens unions. >> it would make it illegal for unions and employers to mandate that employees be part of a union or pay any amount of money to that union. >> jon: or destroy the only leverage unions have to stay afloat, one or the other. so it's really a right-to-work around the union for the corporations. it's one of those things that are actually named for the opposite of the thing they do. like strip bars call themselves gentlemen's clubs. (laughter) or the t.v. network dedicated to making us stupider is called "the learning channel." (laug
. >> republican governor rick snyder promises to sign the bill as soon as it hits his desk which could be within hours. >> jon: actually, between the time that we cut that soundbite and now he already signed it! so (bleep). (laughter) look, you know what, man? so what? so what? so this guy who really looks pleasant enough. (laughter) , maybe it won't be so bad. i mean, the phrase "right to work" is such a positive and uplifting message. what could it possibly do to...
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republican governor rick snyder has just signed bills designed to cripple unions. and take away workers' rights even though earlier this year he said such a move would be quote, divisive and inappropriate. snyder signed the bills despite protests from more than 10,000 people who descended on the state capitol in a massive push back against this shameless power play from the republicans. >> right the work is wrong! right the work is wrong! >> he lied to us. he lied to us on numerous occasions. >> veto! veto! >> kill the bill! kill the bill! >> the protests were passionate and grew tense. in this video from the state's aclu, you can see police actually using pepper spray on some of the demonstrators. the issue in michigan is the republican legislature ramming through a so-called right to work bill. with no warning and no hearings. but the fight is bigger than michigan. it's a fight about worker rights and civil rights across the country. this country, the american people, rejected this kind of extremism on election day. but republicans didn't get the message. gop law
republican governor rick snyder has just signed bills designed to cripple unions. and take away workers' rights even though earlier this year he said such a move would be quote, divisive and inappropriate. snyder signed the bills despite protests from more than 10,000 people who descended on the state capitol in a massive push back against this shameless power play from the republicans. >> right the work is wrong! right the work is wrong! >> he lied to us. he lied to us on numerous...
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governor rick snyder of michigan expected to sign in to law the legislation that would make michigan a right to work state. president obama in his remarks there didn't come out exples sitly against that legislation as the white house has done before but, tamron, you are right. he actually talked about good union jobs. certainly, chatting with a lot of having the united autoworkers as a backdrop is sending a message he's on their side if he didn't sy that in the remarks but another explosive labor battle in the midwest. in michigan is the newest battleground there. >> mark, thank you very much. >>> more now on the heavy duty negotiating taking place over the fiscal cliff. that's part of the reason that the president is in michigan bringing his message to the people and yesterday the president and house speaker john boehner brought their message to one another. the first one on one in more than three weeks. will there be a deal to include what's called serious entitlement reform and cuts? joining me now congresswoman bass of california. it's a pleasure to have you on again. >> thanks,
governor rick snyder of michigan expected to sign in to law the legislation that would make michigan a right to work state. president obama in his remarks there didn't come out exples sitly against that legislation as the white house has done before but, tamron, you are right. he actually talked about good union jobs. certainly, chatting with a lot of having the united autoworkers as a backdrop is sending a message he's on their side if he didn't sy that in the remarks but another explosive...
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republican governor rick snyder signed the measure yesterday, despite widespread protests by the labor union at the state capitol in lansing. the law will make it illegal to require an employee to pay union dues as a condition of their employment. despite michigan's long history of controlled labor, the state is controlled by republican-dominated house and senate. yesterday the house rejected last-minute pleas to delay the bill's passage. even president obama, who won michigan by ten points last month, was unable to sway state lawmakers at the last minute during his visit to detroit. but governor snyder says it was the union who started this fight in the first place. >> i asked them not to go forward, and the reasons i said it is you're going to start a very divisive discussion regarding collective bargaining first, but it also will get into right to work. the right-to-work discussion continued to escalate and was becoming very divisive. the way i viewed it is it's on the table, it's a hot issue, let's show some leadership. so i said when i reviewed it, it's a good thing. it's about be
republican governor rick snyder signed the measure yesterday, despite widespread protests by the labor union at the state capitol in lansing. the law will make it illegal to require an employee to pay union dues as a condition of their employment. despite michigan's long history of controlled labor, the state is controlled by republican-dominated house and senate. yesterday the house rejected last-minute pleas to delay the bill's passage. even president obama, who won michigan by ten points...
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governor rick snyder in a reversal says he will sign the bill into law as soon as it hits his desk. in michigan yesterday, president obama said the law was politically driven. susan mcginnis is in washington with details. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. yeah, the governor now says he wants the economic boost that the law would bring, the jobs and the companies that would locate there, but many disagree. workers say it's going to push down their pay and benefits and weaken unions. police stand shoulder to shoulder preparing for as many as 10,000 protesters at the michigan state capitol today. >> people have a constitutional right to demonstrate. however, all we ask is that they do it in an orderly, lawful, and civil manner. >> reporter: state legislators vote this morning on a right-to-work bill that would weaken unions. opponents acknowledge they're powerless to stop it. >> at the end of the day they'll be passed and signed by the governor. that doesn't make it right. >> reporter: the bill means michigan workers would no longer have to pay the union fees for negotiat
governor rick snyder in a reversal says he will sign the bill into law as soon as it hits his desk. in michigan yesterday, president obama said the law was politically driven. susan mcginnis is in washington with details. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. yeah, the governor now says he wants the economic boost that the law would bring, the jobs and the companies that would locate there, but many disagree. workers say it's going to push down their pay and benefits and weaken...
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every floridian who has the right to vote is able to in upcoming election the bat michigan governor rick snyder despite the system for months that he would not support a right to work for less law in his state senators doing just that today snyder called on the michigan legislature to introduce and as a right to work for less bill and so that he would sign it as soon as it reaches his desk snyder was one of several republican governors who led an all out assault on workers' rights in two thousand and eleven fishermen's neighbor indiana passed a right to work for less walker earlier this year and snyder says he wants to stay competitive with your state i guess he's willing to screw over thousands of michigan workers in the process and the very very ugly wall late last month one hundred workers died in a garment factory fire in bangladesh the plant which make clothing for wal-mart among other companies had no emergency exits or any type of evacuation plan and now it turns out that meeting last year wal-mart brass refused to pay suppliers more money to make safety improvements at their manu
every floridian who has the right to vote is able to in upcoming election the bat michigan governor rick snyder despite the system for months that he would not support a right to work for less law in his state senators doing just that today snyder called on the michigan legislature to introduce and as a right to work for less bill and so that he would sign it as soon as it reaches his desk snyder was one of several republican governors who led an all out assault on workers' rights in two...
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they blamed not only legislatures, but rick snyder who did a 180 on the issue. >> people are upset. people feel they have been taken advantage of, and the governor ises are ponsable. >> a new did you seems to back up that claim. it shows the michigan republican chairman describing how back in 2007 they decided not to introduce legislation because they didn't think they could get it by governor granholm. well, i promise you, they didn't think they could get it by her. michigan now has receiver strong leaders in congress. they asked with governor snyder and asked him to find a middle path. cider told them he would seriously consider their concerns. i'm joined my mary kay henry, welcome inside "the war room." >> thank you. glad to be here. >> i'm sure you were totally tuned into what the president was saying today, was just having him mention it enough? >> it was great. it was wonderful that he talked about collective bargaining rights and how important it is for workers to be able to lift wages. >> is this payback? i mean -- the unions came out really, you know, in big somebodies for
they blamed not only legislatures, but rick snyder who did a 180 on the issue. >> people are upset. people feel they have been taken advantage of, and the governor ises are ponsable. >> a new did you seems to back up that claim. it shows the michigan republican chairman describing how back in 2007 they decided not to introduce legislation because they didn't think they could get it by governor granholm. well, i promise you, they didn't think they could get it by her. michigan now...
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snyder. michigan becomes the 24th state in the nation to ratify a aw that protects workers from being forced to pay union dues as a condition of their employment. we'll be examining tonight what's happening in michigan and in washington, d.c. with the author of "shadow bosses: how government. employee unions control america and rob taxpayers blind." mallory factor joins us. also tonight, egypt's president, muhammad morsi, ordering the egyptian military to arrest people in the street even as he claimed to have rescinded the dictatorial powers he assumed which have spurred violent demonstrations. and a new intelligence report concludes that america's time as the lone superpower is nearing an end. former director of national intelligence john negro panty joins us to talk about our future as a superpower and the challenges that we'll surely face. we begin tonight with one of the few scheduling misadventures of president obama's swire tenure in -- entire tenure in office. the president speaking to
snyder. michigan becomes the 24th state in the nation to ratify a aw that protects workers from being forced to pay union dues as a condition of their employment. we'll be examining tonight what's happening in michigan and in washington, d.c. with the author of "shadow bosses: how government. employee unions control america and rob taxpayers blind." mallory factor joins us. also tonight, egypt's president, muhammad morsi, ordering the egyptian military to arrest people in the street...
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he was greeted by rick snyder at the airport in detroit. michigan would be the 24th right to work state in the nation and with its union background, it would be a huge blow to organized labor, which continues to lose its share of the work force. it was a little under 12% of the work force last year. it was 20% 30 years ago. snyder says his goal isn't hurting unions, it's helping michigan. >> i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. you have hard working people in michigan. this is giving workers choice. >> republicans lost five seats in the michigan legislature last month and democrats accused them of fast tracking the right to work bill through the house and senate in a single day last week to get it done before the new legislature takes office next month. the democratic members of congress tried to pressure legislators not to approve the bill. they were scolded by the state house speaker for pressuring lansing instead of dealing with the fiscal cliff. >> gretchen: wendell goler, thanks very much. >> steve: let's switch down t
he was greeted by rick snyder at the airport in detroit. michigan would be the 24th right to work state in the nation and with its union background, it would be a huge blow to organized labor, which continues to lose its share of the work force. it was a little under 12% of the work force last year. it was 20% 30 years ago. snyder says his goal isn't hurting unions, it's helping michigan. >> i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. you have hard working people in michigan....
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bail-out idea, bail-out detroit versus what governor rick snyder is doing, fundamental change for michigan to make it more like a state like virginia. 23 other states that are right to work states. if they compete for work they got, and the idea might be better. it could be good for state of michigan, if painful for a few people for a while. >> eric: so many car companies say we like to do business in america. freddie addressing the fiscal cliff in detroit is going to mercury to address global warming. it's hot there. only obama could declare the auto bail-out a success. that is like hurricane sandy is a mess. the only successful expert is people. they are greating the hell out of there. going back to people like snyder, obama is happy to take the money from the rich. both won't take advice from people are rich. he doesn't want to learn how to fish. he just wants to take the fish. >> bob: detroit has been in trouble for a long time. right to work. here the unions collectively bargain, great rates. they allow scabs in there and take advantage of the money. >> eric: you just made the case fo
bail-out idea, bail-out detroit versus what governor rick snyder is doing, fundamental change for michigan to make it more like a state like virginia. 23 other states that are right to work states. if they compete for work they got, and the idea might be better. it could be good for state of michigan, if painful for a few people for a while. >> eric: so many car companies say we like to do business in america. freddie addressing the fiscal cliff in detroit is going to mercury to address...
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. >> eliot: when michigan's governor rick snyder ran for election in 2010, he adamantly denied right to work as part of his agenda. this afternoon he signed it into law. sandy levin called the governor out in an op-ed in the descroit free press writing what the governor is unleashing is a right to freeload which will reduce resources for effective representation, increase tensions among employees and sow ill will just when we need cooperation to grow the economy for the benefit of all. unless the governor stands up to the special interests that persuaded him to make a 180-degree turn on this issue so fundamental to the fabric of our state, he will engender a michigan divided. joining me now is ranking member of the house ways and means committee and representative of michigan's 12th district, congressman, welcome and thank you for that powerful op-ed today going right at the governor for the flip-flop. first, explain the flip-flop. what happened and why? >> well, he had said it wasn't on his agenda. and then he got pressure from the radical right and essentially he turned 180 degrees
. >> eliot: when michigan's governor rick snyder ran for election in 2010, he adamantly denied right to work as part of his agenda. this afternoon he signed it into law. sandy levin called the governor out in an op-ed in the descroit free press writing what the governor is unleashing is a right to freeload which will reduce resources for effective representation, increase tensions among employees and sow ill will just when we need cooperation to grow the economy for the benefit of all....
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this controversy started when the governor, governor rick snyder, said for a bill comes across his desk, he will sign it. that prompted the house and senate to begin their legislation, bringing out protesters on thursday, all in opposition of this. actually shut down the capitol here due to overcapacity. eight people were arrested. they were charged for felonies for resisting arrest. that's just the scene police want to avoid when protesters show up tomorrow. again, this is expected to happen around 10:00 a.m., when the session will begin, be put to a vote, expected to get to the governor's desk as soon as tomorrow. dana? >> appreciate the update. dave, thank you so much. one sponsor of the legislation is michigan representative mike shirkey, insisting what is right to work is right for michigan. tell us in a nutshell, what are you trying to do? >> create an experiment in michigan where we have labor freedom, defined as where unions are free to make their case as workers are to make their choice, dana. >> so originally governor snyder when he started his term, this wasn't necessarily at
this controversy started when the governor, governor rick snyder, said for a bill comes across his desk, he will sign it. that prompted the house and senate to begin their legislation, bringing out protesters on thursday, all in opposition of this. actually shut down the capitol here due to overcapacity. eight people were arrested. they were charged for felonies for resisting arrest. that's just the scene police want to avoid when protesters show up tomorrow. again, this is expected to happen...
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this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution. that ballot issue failed in the november election. >> what continued after that is start of the discussion right to work. >> it became a loud and boisterous discussion. so i felt at times in terms of the good leadership to say i didn't want it on my agenda now. it's here. >> demonstrators say working men and women are the subject of political retribution. >> retribution for standing up and fighting for working people. they want to us attack the different groups. they attack us. >> right to work legislation would outlaw the mandatory union due and membership as a condition of employment. even for those not joining the union. similar measure passed in indiana in 2012. unemployment decreased. the top seven states in the u.s. with the lowest unemployment are among the 23 current right to work states. >> when you look at the issu
this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution. that ballot issue failed in the november election. >> what continued after that is start of the discussion right to work. >> it became a loud and boisterous discussion. so i felt at times in terms of the good leadership to say i didn't...
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. >> bill: but governor rick snyder says he will sign the right-to-work measure tomorrow. he joins us now from lansing, the state capitol. so what do you say to the president, governor, who says this you are basically trying to bring down wages for working people in michigan? >> that's not true at all. if you look at he made the comment about bargaining for wangs. about bringing down wages. this legislation is about freedom to choose for workers, bill. this isn't about the relationship between employers and unions at all. this is not about collective bargaining at all. this is not about other basics, about organizing at all. this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> if enough workers opt out of the unions the union's bargaining power goes down it's weaker. that's what mr. obama is trying to it say. why is to the state's advantage very specifically. why is it to the state's advantage to have a right-to-work law to give workers the option of going into a union or not? >> well, they both go together. if you step back at your comment it is important to reco
. >> bill: but governor rick snyder says he will sign the right-to-work measure tomorrow. he joins us now from lansing, the state capitol. so what do you say to the president, governor, who says this you are basically trying to bring down wages for working people in michigan? >> that's not true at all. if you look at he made the comment about bargaining for wangs. about bringing down wages. this legislation is about freedom to choose for workers, bill. this isn't about the...
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. >> bill: but governor rick snyder says he will sign the right-to-work measure tomorrow. he joins us now from lansing, the state capitol. so what do you say to the president, governor, who says this you are basically trying to bring down wages for working people in michigan? >> that's not true at all. if you look at he made the comment about bargaining for wangs. about bringing down wages. this legislation is about freedom to choose for workers, bill. this isn't about the relationship between employers and unions at all. this is not about collective bargaining at all. this is not about other basics, about organizing at all. this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> if enough workers opt out of the unions the union's bargaining power goes down it's weaker. that's what mr. obama is trying to it say. why is to the state's advantage very specifically. why is it to the state's advantage to have a right-to-work law to give workers the option of going into a union or not? >> well, they both go together. if you step back at your comment it is important to reco
. >> bill: but governor rick snyder says he will sign the right-to-work measure tomorrow. he joins us now from lansing, the state capitol. so what do you say to the president, governor, who says this you are basically trying to bring down wages for working people in michigan? >> that's not true at all. if you look at he made the comment about bargaining for wangs. about bringing down wages. this legislation is about freedom to choose for workers, bill. this isn't about the...
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the story is governor rick snyder, republican governor, hard to believe now but when he was elected he was celebrated by the national media as the anti-tea party republican. campaign as a nerd, not so much ideological. he wasn't going to do the kinds of things in michigan that john kay sich was doing in ohio and the turning point when labor in michigan tried to put a constitutional amendment -- put a constitutional amendment on the ballot out there he took as an affront and he snider in response is receptive to this legislation but i think what's interesting to watch here just quickly in the next day is this. a group of democratic congressmen and leaders of michigan met to meet with snyder. the approval rating is not high. facing re-election in what's a blue state in 2014 and basically said, look, this is a huge political mess for you. you are taking incredible flack from supporters like the detroit news, newspapers. here's the way out for you. one of two things. this bill's going to pass the legislature tod legislature tomorrow and they put in appropriation to be exempt from referendu
the story is governor rick snyder, republican governor, hard to believe now but when he was elected he was celebrated by the national media as the anti-tea party republican. campaign as a nerd, not so much ideological. he wasn't going to do the kinds of things in michigan that john kay sich was doing in ohio and the turning point when labor in michigan tried to put a constitutional amendment -- put a constitutional amendment on the ballot out there he took as an affront and he snider in...
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republican governor rick snyder said he'll sign it as soon as it reaches his desk. when's the final vote xwpd? >> reporter: tomorrow around 10:00 a.m. here at the state house, the congress and senate will take up measures. the governor has already made clear he's ready to sign it. here's what he said last week. >> to be pro worker, to give freedom of choice to our workplace, and that legislators move promptly and efficiently moving it through the legislature. when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >> reporter: so he is expected to rubber stamp it, to sign it by tomorrow, ted. >> moving very quickly. alison kosik for us this morning in lansing, michigan. >>> investigators in mexico are looking into what brought down the plane that killed popular mexican-american singer jenni rivera. ♪ >> rivera and at least five others died when their plane crashed in northern mexico on sunday. she had just finished performing before boarding the plane. rivera, a mother of five, was recently named one of the 25 most powerful people by "people espanol." the 24-year-old gr
republican governor rick snyder said he'll sign it as soon as it reaches his desk. when's the final vote xwpd? >> reporter: tomorrow around 10:00 a.m. here at the state house, the congress and senate will take up measures. the governor has already made clear he's ready to sign it. here's what he said last week. >> to be pro worker, to give freedom of choice to our workplace, and that legislators move promptly and efficiently moving it through the legislature. when it arrives on my...
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snyder has changed his position. he now supports right to work. what are you chances of stopping it? >> well, i don't think our chances of stopping it legislatively are particularly good. you know, it's a remarkable thing where we have a governor who campaigned as a moderate who has said for over two years that this issue is too divisive for michigan. now he's its biggest fan. either he was lying when he called it too divisive or he is by his own admission an extremist who's pushing an agenda that's too divisive and too extreme for our state. >> right now as i understand it the entire michigan federal delegation, house and senate, those folks are meeting with governor snyder. could that change anything? >> well, i have heard that they're meeting with him. we'll have to see what comes of that discussion. >> let me play devil's advocate here and just talk about the specifics of this. supporters say that this is going to help the state attract and keep businesses. they often point to auto suppliers, for example. are the
snyder has changed his position. he now supports right to work. what are you chances of stopping it? >> well, i don't think our chances of stopping it legislatively are particularly good. you know, it's a remarkable thing where we have a governor who campaigned as a moderate who has said for over two years that this issue is too divisive for michigan. now he's its biggest fan. either he was lying when he called it too divisive or he is by his own admission an extremist who's pushing an...